2012年8月14日火曜日
Thoughts on Bossa Nova - 3
So, in my other blog, I recently posted the translation for the most famous song, "Garota de Ipanema" or better known as "The Girl from Ipanema". This song would have been the most obvious choice for any attempt to translate a Bossa Nova song lyrics but I intentionally kept this for later. The reason behind this is very simple - because I wanted to display the sins of arranging the lyrics in to English in order to fit the song, losing the whole feeling of "saudade". "The Girl from Ipanema" is only one of many which the beautiful lyrics in which the original meaning have been lost, to me which is regrettable in the sense that many of those listeners of the songs never got to what really the song is about.
My posts in the Malandro En Japao is an attempt to get down to the "sauadade" within the song regardless of what the conventional English lyrics says.
Comparing the Brasilian Portuguese and English lyrics, there appears no girl from Ipanema that is "tall and tanned and young and lovely, that when she passes each one she passes goes, Ah", or no me that "watches her sadly". Rather, the original lyrics is based on how me, as the boy (or an uncle) sitting at the bar ("Veloso", now changed its name to "Garota de Ipanema" in memory of the song on Rua Vinicius de Moraes) sees the girl from the first person's perspective rather than how a third person sees it. This first person's view, or description of his/her feeling holds key to the "saudade" that sits under in Bossa Nova often lost in the translation.
Musically speaking, except those lyrics in which Tom Jobim translated later by himself, the words and verses don't fit in the same rhythm and sounds somewhat un-natural. For example:
My posts in the Malandro En Japao is an attempt to get down to the "sauadade" within the song regardless of what the conventional English lyrics says.
Comparing the Brasilian Portuguese and English lyrics, there appears no girl from Ipanema that is "tall and tanned and young and lovely, that when she passes each one she passes goes, Ah", or no me that "watches her sadly". Rather, the original lyrics is based on how me, as the boy (or an uncle) sitting at the bar ("Veloso", now changed its name to "Garota de Ipanema" in memory of the song on Rua Vinicius de Moraes) sees the girl from the first person's perspective rather than how a third person sees it. This first person's view, or description of his/her feeling holds key to the "saudade" that sits under in Bossa Nova often lost in the translation.
Musically speaking, except those lyrics in which Tom Jobim translated later by himself, the words and verses don't fit in the same rhythm and sounds somewhat un-natural. For example:
"Olha que coisa mais linda, Mais cheia de graca"; and
"Tall and tanned and young and lovely"
Both have different sound sound-breaks - depending on how you count, 18 versus 8. This in my opinion seems to be in the differences in which the sound-breaks mentioned earlier are counted. I get the impression that Brasilian Portuguese are counted better with "moras" as in Japanese composed by sound units ("Olha" would be 2, "o" and "lha") while in English are counted by syllables ("Tall" would be 1). Therefore given such limitations, obviously the literal translation becomes impossible. So what do these translators of the lyrics do? Make lyrics to fit in the measures diluting, or completely changing the meanings.
When Tom Jobim started translating his own lyrics this became a million times better, an example seen in "Anos Dourados" or "It Looks Like December":
"Parece que dizes, Te amo Maria":
"It looks like I'm saying, I love you Maria"
Depending on how the part "Maria", the count may differ literally but when sang, both fits perfectly. A very beautiful song.
Now, going back to "Garota de Iapanema", I think there could have been a way to arrange so that "saudade" of both the girl and boy could be sang, mixing the Brasilian Portuguese and English lyrics.
2012年7月26日木曜日
Thoughts on Bossa Nova - 2
In the last post, I mentioned the word "saudade". This word nowadays has become relatively widespread as a fundamental component of Bossa Nova where people sort of understand its meaning just like me. Common definition seems to be "longing" or "sadness" or "being sentimental" or "loneliness", but is this true?
To be honest, I do not have an answer - I am not Brasilian let alone being a Carioca. What I sense though is that there is an underlying characteristics of being an "optimistic pessimist", where this became more apparent compared to the Brasilian popular music before the Bossa Nova era. Examples of this can be seen in the lyrics.
When Orlando Silva sang "Aos Pez da Cruz", the song was "you swore eternal love at the foot of a holy cross to me but you convenient forgot, although heart has its own reasons" - in other words, grudge. Or when Os Namorados da Lua sang "De Conversa Em Conversa", it sang "words after words there's no point in talking anymore, so why don't I pack up my stuff and leave because I am not the lime that keeps on being squeezed" (lime squeezed here I think refers to those for Caipirinha) - a simple break-up song.
But when Elizeth Cardoso sang "Chega de Saudade", it sang that "my girl left me and I cannot do with out her, but if she ever came back I would kiss her so much, more than the fishes that swim in the oceans" - a glimpse of hope although there may be none. Or when Joao Gilberto sang "Meditacao", it sang that "he who believe in the love, smile and flower was let down and cried at the rock bottom because those were so fragile but again he who came back to believe in love, smile and flower learned that it was the way for his peace of mind" - displays both the positive and negative aspect of how things could be.
If "saudade" is the key in understanding Bossa Nova, the differences in the composition of lyrics as above seems to be what it is (yes, I know it is a rationalistic approach), hence the essence of "optimistic pessimism".
So, what really is "saudade" - I really don't know but if someone were to ask me, I would have no other way but to answer, "a permanent state of mind (or characteristics) where you are sensitive and honest enough to acknowledge the movement of the needles within the meters in your heart/feeling with the ability to have hope."
Going back my earlier post I said guitar has a part to play, piano has a part to play and the vocal has a part to play. Anyone can sing Bossa Nova or anyone can play Bossa Nova. But unless one thinks of what "saudade" is, how could it really sound nice? Easy to cosmetically decorate in an attempt to cover up for the lack of thinking, but I somehow can't accept that.
To be honest, I do not have an answer - I am not Brasilian let alone being a Carioca. What I sense though is that there is an underlying characteristics of being an "optimistic pessimist", where this became more apparent compared to the Brasilian popular music before the Bossa Nova era. Examples of this can be seen in the lyrics.
When Orlando Silva sang "Aos Pez da Cruz", the song was "you swore eternal love at the foot of a holy cross to me but you convenient forgot, although heart has its own reasons" - in other words, grudge. Or when Os Namorados da Lua sang "De Conversa Em Conversa", it sang "words after words there's no point in talking anymore, so why don't I pack up my stuff and leave because I am not the lime that keeps on being squeezed" (lime squeezed here I think refers to those for Caipirinha) - a simple break-up song.
But when Elizeth Cardoso sang "Chega de Saudade", it sang that "my girl left me and I cannot do with out her, but if she ever came back I would kiss her so much, more than the fishes that swim in the oceans" - a glimpse of hope although there may be none. Or when Joao Gilberto sang "Meditacao", it sang that "he who believe in the love, smile and flower was let down and cried at the rock bottom because those were so fragile but again he who came back to believe in love, smile and flower learned that it was the way for his peace of mind" - displays both the positive and negative aspect of how things could be.
If "saudade" is the key in understanding Bossa Nova, the differences in the composition of lyrics as above seems to be what it is (yes, I know it is a rationalistic approach), hence the essence of "optimistic pessimism".
So, what really is "saudade" - I really don't know but if someone were to ask me, I would have no other way but to answer, "a permanent state of mind (or characteristics) where you are sensitive and honest enough to acknowledge the movement of the needles within the meters in your heart/feeling with the ability to have hope."
Going back my earlier post I said guitar has a part to play, piano has a part to play and the vocal has a part to play. Anyone can sing Bossa Nova or anyone can play Bossa Nova. But unless one thinks of what "saudade" is, how could it really sound nice? Easy to cosmetically decorate in an attempt to cover up for the lack of thinking, but I somehow can't accept that.
2012年7月23日月曜日
Thoughts on Bossa Nova - 1
I am sure there are quite a lot of people who wants to or are performing Bossa Nova, MPB or any sort of Brasilian Music. Many a times however, I just hear people playing according to the notes and scales written on the score, without much consideration to the fundamental point of what it is all about. Obviously I do not intend to say I know everything - I only know very little but at least I am trying to read between the lines where I believe the essence of "saudade" is hidden.
Are singing songs from other countries in a bossa nova rhythm, Bossa Nova? Is the presumptuous sophistication of the songs to make it more fashionable and easy-listening, Bossa Nova? I don't know for the general public, but at least to me is a clear no.
If the term Bossa Nova is translated as the "new aptitude" or the "new inclination", then may be the stuff mentioned earlier falls within the definition of Bossa Nova that keep on evolving as "Nova". But going back to where it all started, it was a movement at that time, back in the last 50s to the early 60s and the music that came out out as a result was categorized as Bossa Nova because it was both "Bossa" and "Nova". So where has the "Bossa" gone? All the new stuff I hear these days to me, don't sound authentic but commercial more than anything.
Obviously, anyone is free to interpret the music and perform in their very own ways. But one thing for sure, Bossa Nova was a movement in it by itself, unlike "rock and roll" or "jazz" which the word has its origin in certain definitive actions.
In Bossa Nova, the guitar has a part to play, the piano has a part to play, and the vocals have a part to play in its own saudade. Let's go back to the roots, listen over and over, to see what Bossa Nova is really about.
Are singing songs from other countries in a bossa nova rhythm, Bossa Nova? Is the presumptuous sophistication of the songs to make it more fashionable and easy-listening, Bossa Nova? I don't know for the general public, but at least to me is a clear no.
If the term Bossa Nova is translated as the "new aptitude" or the "new inclination", then may be the stuff mentioned earlier falls within the definition of Bossa Nova that keep on evolving as "Nova". But going back to where it all started, it was a movement at that time, back in the last 50s to the early 60s and the music that came out out as a result was categorized as Bossa Nova because it was both "Bossa" and "Nova". So where has the "Bossa" gone? All the new stuff I hear these days to me, don't sound authentic but commercial more than anything.
Obviously, anyone is free to interpret the music and perform in their very own ways. But one thing for sure, Bossa Nova was a movement in it by itself, unlike "rock and roll" or "jazz" which the word has its origin in certain definitive actions.
In Bossa Nova, the guitar has a part to play, the piano has a part to play, and the vocals have a part to play in its own saudade. Let's go back to the roots, listen over and over, to see what Bossa Nova is really about.
2012年7月16日月曜日
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